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"Poor_Sh" (ar4x)
11/04/2020 at 14:37 • Filed to: None

You have $10,000 USD to spend on any of the 4 cars. Chosen for FUN and not chosen to be correct awesome choices. Just go with it!

Your goal is to make a TRACK ONLY car that is no longer street-legal (not including lawless places like Florida).

The money you have is the total you can spend on the car plus mods and maintenance (but excluding fees/taxes/insurance/gas).

Parts bought are new or something you already have to remove the subjective aspect of getting deals or making you have to browse Craigslist to answer.

Car 1: 1990 Miata (turbo) ($7000)

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Car 2: 1996 BMW M3 Coupe ($8000)

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Car 3: 1973 Karmann Ghia Coupe ($7000)

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Car 4: 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse ($1,200)

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Ok, last time some of you just went with the easy BMW choice so I gave you same choice to see if you’re still boring. It seems pretty track-ready. There’s also a MIATA! Anyway, this time I don’t actually want the Eclipse and the M iata having a turbo sounds good but I don’t want to take care of the potential gremlins. So, I’m boring this time, I CHOOSE THE M3! Honestly I’ve ridden with an instructor in a similar car and we went past a 991 GT3RS like it was rolling down a hill in neutral.

SEND IT!

DISCUSSION (62)

promoted by the color red > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 14:45

Track only? M3. You’ll probably get to enjoy the Miata 10% of the time and the other 90% of the time debugging .

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 14:48

https://tulsa.craigslist.org/ctd/d/tulsa-2008-saturn-sky-red-line-turbo/7225400181.html

E90M3 > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 14:50

Give me the M3, an E36 M3 was what I lusted after in high school. I’d actually quite like to have one some day, though the want for one has been outweighed by wants for different cars now.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 14:50

Well, I hate myself and don’t enjoy free time, so Miata! I’ll climb that mountain and sort out it’s issues.

I’m also going to go nuts with a saw-z-all and take off anything not strictly necessary for it’s operation.

Poor_Sh > promoted by the color red
11/04/2020 at 14:51

Yeah I thought the same for my decision. Still hoping there will be some weirdos here though haha

I’d spend the final 2k just updating the safety systems and a full fluid/brake change.

Poor_Sh > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/04/2020 at 14:52

Sexy, but how exactly do you make that Track-Only with your last $1k?

Poor_Sh > E90M3
11/04/2020 at 14:53

They really are equal to the Miata in most common track car at least that I’ve seen. There’s gotta be a good reason for that.

Poor_Sh > Snuze: Needs another Swede
11/04/2020 at 14:54

Nice! If it works, it would be my choice too. I’m planning to do similar with my NB but no turbo plans.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 14:54

Install roll bar and... remove blinkers.

Jb boin > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 14:54

To be fair it totally depends on the track.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 14:56

I’ve also seen some fast E36s on track, but I think most of them had been LS-swapped.

Arrivederci > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 14:56

Of those, the M3. Unless you can part the Miata to make it naturally aspirated again and spend the rest on prep.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 14:56

Karmann Ghia with a Mitsubishi Eclipse engine donor. Stick the VW engine in the Eclipse and profit for more VW track mods.

PowderHound > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 14:58

M3. Not a Miata fan, the other two are slow.

Poor_Sh > Jb boin
11/04/2020 at 14:59

Really? You would buy a car to run at only a single track?

E90M3 > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 14:59

I would assume affordable and good on a track. I’ve heard that while the S52B32 doesn’t deliver the power of the euro S50B32 it makes up for that with reliability.

Poor_Sh > Arrivederci
11/04/2020 at 14:59

I would agree you could do the work to get the Miata NA again, sell the parts, and use them better. Good idea!

Poor_Sh > PowderHound
11/04/2020 at 15:00

Slow car fast! Plus imagine how fast you could make the Eclipse with basically $9k?

PowderHound > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:03

While I am not a fan of Miatas (I don’t mind them just don’t see myself ever buying one), I am anti eclipse. 1st Gen’s are fine but that’s about it.

66P1800inpieces > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:03

Well the BMW has two engines so I’ll take that one.

- Rebuilt Engine from Wile Motorsports
- Mishimoto radiator
- New rotors and pads
- Re-built engine

Poor_Sh > 66P1800inpieces
11/04/2020 at 15:05

lol what a DEAL

Poor_Sh > PowderHound
11/04/2020 at 15:06

Yup understood as well. I’m nostalgic for my 3G Eclipse but it was an awful car. Still, that’s why I found one that’s going for dirt dirt cheap.

Poor_Sh > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
11/04/2020 at 15:06

I like the way you think!

nerd_racing > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:08

Miata, cost of the car + leftover cash = a great track weapon.

Poor_Sh > E90M3
11/04/2020 at 15:08

As incredibly fast as we were lapping Palmer in that instructor’s car, he never got close to my Cayman’s top speed down the “straight”. So yeah that was an eye-opener into what make a car be able to turn and driving experience can give you over power.

Poor_Sh > nerd_racing
11/04/2020 at 15:10

If it works! But yeah that’s pretty much what I’m planning to do IRL.

MM54 > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:11

If it were “Pick one to be a fun car” I’d go for the turbo miata, but if it’s just for the track I’d take the e36 for sure.

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:12

Uuugh, such a tough choice between thr miat and the beemer.....

Can I has both???

RallyWrench > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:14

M3 because I know them inside and out, they’re easy to work on, and are fantastic and friendly to drive on track . I love Miatas but never really feel good in them ergonomically, have no interest in turbo track cars and prefer to have metal over my head. I also love old VWs, but to make a Ghia into anything worth driving quickly would blow the budget out of the water. The Mitsubishi, just...no.

Jim Spanfeller > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:15

While I would normally gravitate towards the classic VW, the one-piece body would be a pain to repair every time it gets damaged. So I’d go with the Mitsubishi Eclipse and LS swap it using the FWD LS drivetrain from a Chevy Impala. I believe those can handle about 400 hp. I’d put the engine in the back of course, so it’s mid-engined. Then I’ll have myself a budget C8 Corvette!

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:15

You’re increasing the value of both cars with the swap, I think.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:16

That is actually a valid point. I live fairly close to Summit Point (~1 hr). My next closest tracks are Dominion, New Jersey Motor Park, PIRC. There might be a few others, but those are the ones I’ve been to and am familiar with. So if I’m going to be racing regionally, it might be a good idea to pick a car that would do well on those types of circuits - assuming there’ s some commonality to them.

Poor_Sh > Jim Spanfeller
11/04/2020 at 15:20

Oh man, those lift-back hatches on the 3G Eclipse would be an AWESOME place to put the engine. You’d have to do some ventilation/intake and sound deadening but totally worth it.

Poor_Sh > RallyWrench
11/04/2020 at 15:21

lol pragmatic!

Poor_Sh > ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
11/04/2020 at 15:22

Sure but you have to sell your tow vehicle to afford it , and find a way to tow the Miata to the track using the M3 lol

Poor_Sh > MM54
11/04/2020 at 15:22

Yeah if the Miata was N/A and track prepped that’s a different story for me, but the M3 is the most obvious choice.

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:23

What if i just drive it to the track tho

Poor_Sh > Snuze: Needs another Swede
11/04/2020 at 15:26

There are so many things that change though over time. Surely you can make any track car work at any track within reason. I have 2 tracks within 1.5 hours, and about 4 good ones within 2.5 hours. Maybe 7 total if you include what I wouldn’t really care to drive on. Certainly I’d run mostly at the closer ones but I can’t resist trying new things and finding out how that affects my car or setup. Still, I can see it being valid!

nerd_racing > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:26

I’d rather use a Mazda B series engine in a different chassis for a track weapon, but that’s just my crazy preference.

Poor_Sh > nerd_racing
11/04/2020 at 15:30

You mean out of the truck? Wonder what that does to your weight distribution in a Miata. Likely not their favored 50-50 lol

Poor_Sh > ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
11/04/2020 at 15:31

Then you didn’t read the prompt that said Track-Only, not street legal :p

AestheticsInMotion > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:33

Turbo Miata. Remaining $3000 goes towards a Borg-Warner EFR turbo to replace whatever is currently on. And not just any Borg-Warner. The big boi

Kinja'd!!!

Jb boin > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:39

I would probably prefer a better handling car to go on more technical/twisty circuits than Formula 1 circuits that require a ton of power to feel “adequate” and might not need low speed cornering maneuverability .

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:40

Oooo, apparently I’m blind! I got too excited when I saw turbo miat i guess lol

Although I’m sure I can register whatever I want in I ndiana as well

nerd_racing > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 15:46

No, the Miata runs a B series engine. It’s the name of that family of engines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_B_engine

I’d run it in an even lighter chassis that has shown to be even quicker at the track. the 121/Festiva chassis.

Poor_Sh > nerd_racing
11/04/2020 at 15:48

Oh so like the BP-ZE (?) engine in my 99 Miata?

Poor_Sh > ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
11/04/2020 at 16:00

I said no cheating like in Florida haha

Poor_Sh > AestheticsInMotion
11/04/2020 at 16:02

Perfect description! That would be a blast until it’s a blast.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 16:23

Miata. Because they’re so cheap to build/ operate and one with actual power would be fun.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 17:52

E36. Pl ease and thankyou.

Poor_Sh > Future next gen S2000 owner
11/04/2020 at 17:55

Yes sir, and you’re welcome.

Cash Rewards > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 18:08

Miata. Guy actually knows what to say in his ad

Cash Rewards > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 18:10

M3 says just "coilovers", and no engine pic. On a track car you gotta do better than that

Poor_Sh > Cash Rewards
11/04/2020 at 18:14

Truth, but still, other people’s turbos lol

Poor_Sh > Cash Rewards
11/04/2020 at 18:15

Maybe so, but that’s a little more nuanced than this game needs. Besides, you have $2k left over to fix things if you need :p

Cash Rewards > Poor_Sh
11/04/2020 at 19:00

Will 2k get me a euro spec engine for it? Then we’ll talk

Poor_Sh > Cash Rewards
11/04/2020 at 19:09

I only know that it’s a BMW... probably lol but I bet if you waited on the market long enough anything’s possible.

pip bip - choose Corrour > Poor_Sh
11/05/2020 at 03:20

Mazda plz.

nerd_racing > Poor_Sh
11/05/2020 at 07:08

I have one out of a 92 Escort GT that I was planning on using. But yeah similar idea. I’m planning on using Familia GTX electronics and engine management otherwise I would have looked for a BP-4W head.

mhr555 > Poor_Sh
11/05/2020 at 07:40

Since I said “ewwww” to the Ghia (no that it’s a bad car, not just a track car IMO) and the Eclipse along with my fears of of the electrical uncertainties of the M3; I’d go the stereotypical route of Miata.

Poor_Sh > mhr555
11/05/2020 at 07:42

M3 electronics worry you but the turbo in the Miata seems fine? I kinda went the other way

mhr555 > Poor_Sh
11/05/2020 at 08:23

I can rip off the turbo kit and go back to NA.